A Detailed Answer to Kevin Bumatay

Mr. Bumatay's comments are in blue, my responses are in the gray boxes

You recently visited the University of Florida in Gainesville, FL, where I attended your sermon for an entire four hours. You harassed me frequently along with many of the others that opposed your outrageous ideas. I was the young man that walked with you to your car and tried having an intellectual conversation with you. Instead of speaking with me or preaching to the me the real word of God (not Jed's version) you insulted me by calling me a loser, and accusing me of harassing you.
 
Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes
CRIMES AND OFFENSES (TITLE 18)

CHAPTER 27. ASSAULT 
§ 2709. Harassment and stalking. 

(a) Harassment.--A person commits the crime of harassment when, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person: 

   1.he strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects him to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same; or 
   2.he follows a person in or about a public place or places; or 
   3.he engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which alarm or seriously annoy such other 
      person and which serve no legitimate purpose. 

According to Pennsylvania law, harassment requires (1) physical contact, (2) following, or (3) a repeated course of conduct which alarms or seriously annoys and which serves no legitimate purpose. 

In my opinion, and mind you I'm not a lawyer (although I have studied the law a little), by voluntarily attending Jed's preaching, he could not in any way be accused of harassing you.  He did not meet any of the elements of the crime.  On the other hand, when you persisted in following him and arguing with him, you most assuredly did harass him - at least under Pennsylvania's statutes.

In addition, you accused me of incest and being molested as a child in public simply because I did not agree with your teachings. I mentioned "your teachings" in the last sentence instead of God's teachings because that is exactly what it is. So I ask you and your followers, are these the actions of a Christian?
 
I was not present when you confronted Jed, but I do trust his judgment.  I suspect that you said something to indicate the state of your heart.  I have known Jed a long time and strongly doubt that he accused you of incest because you did not agree with his teachings.  As a supposed Christian you don't seem to understand even elementary things about Christianity.  First let me cover the issue of judgment, or better yet, how we can judge. 

You were one of those trying to instruct Jed that Christians shouldn't judge by quoting Matthew 7:1 - "Judge not lest ye be judged".  But you failed to read the entire passage.  Read it all before you assert it's meaning: 

{1} Judge not, that ye be not judged. {2} For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. {3} And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? {4} Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? {5} Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 

The Lord isn't talking about pine two by fours here.  He is talking about sin and hypocrisy.  When He says "then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye", He is not instructing in first aid.  His plain meaning from verse 1 is that if YOU want to judge, first deal with sin in your own life (cast out the beam), and then you can judge. 

The hypocrite stands condemned, in that by judging others for those things of which he himself is guilty, he condemns himself.  That is why the warning is so strong.  If you judge another for something you are guilty of this verse stands as a warning - God is not mocked - For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged.  Now it seems to me, that in condemning Jed for judging, you are judging.  Since you dis-allow judging, by judging Jed, you condemn yourself.  You need to take that warning to heart. 

Your primary error, is that you assume God hates judgment because you hate judgment. 

(1)  Concerning Abraham, the scripture have God saying this:  For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment. Gen 18:19 

(2) Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.  He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. Deu 32:3-4 

(3) I put on righteousness, and it clothed me: my judgment was as a robe and a diadem. Job 29:14  Job was a man to whom God himself ascribed perfection. 

(4) For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.  He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD.  Ps 33:4-5 

(5) Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.  For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.  Ps 37:27-28 

(6) Justice and judgment are the habitation of thy throne: mercy and truth shall go before thy face. Ps 89:14 

(7) For the LORD will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.  But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it. Ps 94:14-15 

(8) ...righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his throne.  Ps 97:2b 

(9) Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.  Ps 106:3  That's right Kevin, there is a special blessing on those who keep judgment. 

(10) Then stood up Phinehas, and executed judgment: and so the plague was stayed.  And that was counted unto him for righteousness unto all generations for evermore.  Ps 106:30-31  Phinehas killed two people with a spear.  God was so pleased that he executed judgment that he gave him an everlasting ministry.  There is only one other person in all of scripture with an everlasting ministry, and that is Jesus himself. 

(11) Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. 
       Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; 
       To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 
       To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 
       To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.  Ps 149:5-9  This passage says that judgment is an honor given to the saints. 

(12)  To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice... It is joy to the just to do judgment:   Proverbs 21:3,15 

(13)  There is one passage that Christians love to quote and it is Isaiah 1:18:  "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."  This is a wonderful invitation from the Lord. 

But how many Christians read what comes before in Isaiah 1:15-17:  "And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.  Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;  Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." 

Any fool could see that the invitation comes after certain conditions.  Of course these conditions can only be met through Christ, but even still, these are things we should be seeking from Him.  Seek Judgment we are commanded! 

(14)  But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness. 
Is 5:16 

(15)  And therefore will the LORD wait, that he may be gracious unto you, and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you: for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him.  Is 30:18 

(16)  Even concerning Jesus, Isaiah prophesied about him in Is 42:1-4:  "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.  He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.  A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law." 

(17)  Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.  Is 59:15  That's right Kevin, it displeases God that there is no judgment.  God destroyed Israel because there was no righteous judgment! 

(18)  For I the LORD love judgment,  Is 61:8a 

At this point, most sin-excusers start trying to disannul the scriptures by saying "But that is in the old testament - we are under a new covenant".  What did Jesus say about judgment? 

In Matthew 23:23, in upbraiding the pharisees, Jesus said:  "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."  Jesus says judgment is one of the weightier matters of the law which he said "ought ye to have done". 

In another rendering in Luke 11:42, it is written thusly:  "But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."  Can you comprehend this, Kevin, that Jesus was putting judgment on a par with the Love of God?  He wasn't rebuking them for judging but was  rebuking them for NOT judging. 

In truth Jesus commands this:  John 7:24  "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."  If Jesus intended to outlaw all judgment in Matthew 7:1, why would he command us to judge in John 7:24?  Indeed what Jesus was outlawing was hypocrites like you judging.  If you want to judge brother Jed, first come into obedience to Jesus yourself, you preach Jesus faithfully in obedience to His commandment to preach the gospel to all the world, and then come and reason with him. 

These verses are admonitions to you.  There are a couple of verses that speak to how you view judgment. 

(1)  Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge.  An ungodly witness scorneth judgment:   Proverbs 19:27-28 

(2)  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.  Proverbs 28:5 

and 
(3)  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?  And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?  We who preach have been through that beginning.  God sent us out to warn the rest. 

Do you know who will be doing the judging of the world, Kevin?  I Cor 6:2-3  "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?  Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" 

Is judging a "Christian action"?  Absolutely!  After reading all this scripture on judging, I command you in the name of the Lord to repent, and to seek the Lord to learn righteous judgment.  Your position on judgment places you among the ungodly and evil men.

 

I recently visited your home page where I noticed that you praised yourself and admitted to having follower.  Aren't the people that you help supposed to be followers of God not "Jed heads". Your home page is an outrageous display of non-christian actions. You have pictures of people that opposed you, in which you publicly humiliate and insult. In fact, I noticed that those that do oppose you are accused of homosexuality. Again, are these actions of a Christian?
 

I am the web master, where is this self praise?  And where does it say we have "followers".  What non-Christian actions are you referring to?  Street preaching is commanded, how can it possibly be non-Christian?  Is it non-christian to be opposed?  Every prophet and preacher God ever sent out - in all of recorded history, including Jesus himself,  was opposed by those who were comfortable in their sins.  Your ignorance of the scriptures rises to an epic, almost legendary level.

I realize that nothing I say will change your mind nor the minds of your wife or brainwashed daughters, but I do hope to reach anyone that has any sense and any compassion. I myself am not a perfect person (unlike what you said you were)
 

Matthew 5:48:  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. 
Heb 6:1  Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 
Heb 10:14  For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.  

but at least I do not preach the false word of God, nor am I a social plague on humanity as you are. I also realize that, if you do post this letter on your web page, you will also publicly insult me. Indeed, I do highly dislike you and  YOUR beliefs, but you too also can be forgiven? So I will pray for you, and I will try to do it with all my heart.
 

1 John 3:10,20  "In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother... If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"  By your own words - "Indeed, I do highly dislike you and  YOUR beliefs" - you condemn yourself.  How can you hate us and think to show us the way of God more clearly.  You deceive yourself. 

To the contrary, by showing you your sins, we obey God:  Isaiah 58:1  Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.  

And we love men:  

Proverbs 27:6  Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. 

Ps 141:5  Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: 

    In addition, I am attempting to expose you to the public and prevent you from any other damage that you will cause. I am going to create a petition among many if not all Universities to ban you from all campuses. I have already set up a home page and am still working on it in which I hope will warn the public about you. I am currently receiving legal advice from law students, so that the legal system may one day stop your social injustices. I will contact those that you have publicly embarrassed such as Amy Grant. I will contact the media and anybody else necessary to peacefully and legally rid the world of your horrific beliefs. Sir, I am determined!

Sincerely,
Kevin Lee Bumatay
 

I am thankful that the framers of the Constitution were prescient enough to protect us from the likes of you.
 
Sir, you did not answer my question that I mentioned frequently in my last letter. Are the actions of brother Jed (insulting and judging people, accusing people of homosexuality because they do not agree with your beliefs, praising yourself on your home page, saying that you don't sin and that you are perfect, and overall displaying a non-loving, judgmental, and hateful attitude toward all people) the will of God. I wish for no verse or scripture. I wish only for a yes or no answer.
 
The answer is Yes, what Jed is doing is entirely Christian. 

The fact you do not want to hear scriptures is a clear indication of the state of your sin blackened heart.  If you knew God, you would be able to see that what goes on when Jed preaches is precisely what Jesus said would happen. 

Matthew 10:5  These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 
6  But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 
7  And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 
8  Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. 
9  Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 
10  Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. 
11  And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 
12  And when ye come into an house, salute it. 
13  And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 
14  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 
15  Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 
16  Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 
17  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 
18  And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 
19  But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 
20  For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 
21  And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 
22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 
23  But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. 
24  The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 
25  It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? 
26  Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 
27  What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 
28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 
29  Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 
30  But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 
31  Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. 
32  Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 
33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 
34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 
35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 
36  And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 
37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 
38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 
39  He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 
40  He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. 

Which one of the prophets did not your fathers kill?

If you are unable to give me such an answer, I can only suspect that Brother Jed does not display the actions of a Christian, therefore has no right preaching the word of God. Any fool can stand in the middle of a crowd and preach. In fact, people rather watch a fool than watch someone preaching the truth. Also, I would like to say that I do believe in God. And although I am not a perfect Christian, I do know that Jesus had compassion and loved everyone.
 

Twice you have said you are not perfect.  When I hear that said, I am able to judge.  How?  Jesus said in Matthew 12:34  "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.  A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things."  Your mouth is confessing unrepented and unforsaken sin.  If it were repented of and forsaken, it would not be in your heart to flow so easily out of your mouth.  Your god is still sin, not Jesus.  

How does God know when you love him?  John 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Why then does Brother Jed and Cindy show only hatred and disgust for every student in every University.
 

We are commanded by God to hate evil and love good.  When the students defend sin, which is evil, we must hate that.  In that we desire that they might forsake their sinful ways and live, we demonstrate our love.  If we truly hated the students, we would let them die in their sins and go straight to Hell.  But because we love them, we persuade them to chose life.  By what stretch of logic can one say that by warning others of mortal danger that we are demonstrating hatred.  It can only be so interpreted if those we are warning love their sin more than life itself, so trying to separate them from their first love is tantamount to hatred - but only in their sin twisted minds. 

Would you accuse firemen of hatred for trying to rescue people form a burning building?

 

The devil will disguise himself as a Christian and even preach the word of God. Only those that truly know the word of God will not fall to the Devil's preaching.
 

The devil never preaches that a Christian can stop sinning.  If he did, his kingdom would be divided against itself, and his kingdom would fall.  Satan doesn't want Christians to stop sinning.  Do you know why?  Because in so doing, they would be obeying God.  Satan doesn't want people obeying God, now, does he?  He wants people to sin because he is the god of sin. 

Concerning Christians and sin: 

1 Peter 4:1  Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin

1 John 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 
5  And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 
7  Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 
10  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 

The preaching of the devil goes something like this:  "God loves you so much that he doesn't care what you do.  Why, you can sin everyday (everybody does) and He just won't care.  God won't judge you for your sin (even though He said he would) because YOU are SO SPECIAL that He will overlook your 'mistakes' and 'slips'".  No my friend, God judges sin - period.  If He were to excuse one sinner without that sinner coming through the cleansing of Jesus, then He will have obviated His own son's death..

 

>From what I saw that day when Jed was preaching, every true Christian attending, accused Jed of speaking the wrong word. What will it take for you and other Jed heads to see the truth. Read the Bible more openly and attend other institutions of Christ. You'll never see the truth until you realize that you are supposed to be following Jesus and brother Jed.  Open your eyes and your heart. Get a different perspective on Christian like attending another Church. Brother Jed is not Jesus nor is he the only follower of God on this world. Sir, I beg that you attempt to get
the real truth of God's word and not Brother Jed's version.

One last request: please answer my questions from my last letter. Please answer each question directly.

Sincerely,
Kevin Lee Bumatay
 
 
 

We have preached on hundreds of campuses over the last three decades, to quite possibly millions of students.  Whenever reasoning like yours comes out, it is always because of secret treasured sin.  There is a sin in your life, whether it is sodomy, or fornication, or masturbation, that you feel you can not get the victory over.  You have struggled with it.  You have tried to will it out.  You have tried to fast it out.  You have tried to bargain it out.  But all seems to fail.  Countless others have found themselves in this battle. 

What you have not done is to recognize that the "gospel" of Jesus - the good news - is that that He can set you free from your sin entirely.  It is only the love of the sin that binds you to it.  Think about it.  If Jesus is unable to free you from your sin, that means sin is more powerful than God, which by extension means that Satan won in his rebellion against God.  If Satan can hold you against the Lord, then Satan is Lord.  Because whoever is omnipotent, He is God, because God by definition is omnipotent. 

When anyone tells me that they can't stop sinning, they are not confessing the One who said to the woman caught in adultery "go and sin no more".  They are confessing that the god of sin has complete and utter control over their actions.  How can such a miserable slave to sin claim to know the Lord of Righteousness? 

Hear Jesus, Kevin. 

Matthew 7:13  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 
14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 
15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 
16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 
17  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 
18  A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 
19  Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 
20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 
21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 
22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 
23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 

Those who continue to work iniquity the Lord destroys.  His words not mine. 

Jesus is able to set you free from your sin Kevin, but you first have to want it, and then you have to believe it.  As long as your "faith" tells you that you can not be freed, you will be a slave to sin, and in the end you will be destroyed like all the other sinners.  Calling yourself by the name of Jesus and obeying the devil just won't cut it.  In fact I believe that is what is really the sin called taking the Lord's name in vain. 

I hope and pray you will repent unto salvation. 
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